8:12 AM – Dziva Mawere:
18/10/2016, 8:28 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAGPJHC/2012/186.html
18/10/2016, 8:39 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://www.thestandard.co.zw/2009/09/24/implications-of-meikles-specification-on-rule-of-law/
18/10/2016, 8:40 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://www.newzimbabwe.com/columns/columns.aspx?newsID=1128
18/10/2016, 8:47 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://www.financialgazette.co.zw/politicising-meikles-battle-blows-away-legal-reality/
18/10/2016, 8:48 AM – Doc 1873: Ín terms of the above we have precedent that companies have been specified for corruption in Zimbabwe which proves the courts have interpreted the statute to include juristic person in the term person. We can try our own interpretation to see if the courts instead misdirected themselves in that interpretation but it is clear that the enquiry is almos5 done becaz if the cour5 misdirected itself but achieved the desired results by legislature then theyear merely need to read it to the Act the definition of person and show it includes juristic persons.
18/10/2016, 8:48 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://nehandaradio.com/2011/05/21/muponda-seeks-to-block-liquidation-of-cfx-bank/
18/10/2016, 8:49 AM – Dziva Mawere: Have you checked Magaisa’s interpretation
18/10/2016, 8:51 AM – Dziva Mawere:
18/10/2016, 8:53 AM – Dziva Mawere: https://www.newsday.co.zw/2010/10/20/2010-10-20-mawere-case-hijacking-state-apparatus-for-personal-gain/
18/10/2016, 8:54 AM – Doc 1873: You are a diligent researcher Sir. I am definitely challenged by your commitment to knowledge sharing.
18/10/2016, 8:55 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://newscentral.exsees.com/item/df2115cdac95034c1941978bec003c6b-a62019727ac251d90f97599ee0d3737e
18/10/2016, 8:56 AM – Dziva Mawere: 👍🏼 Let facts guide and in every dispute there is learning
18/10/2016, 8:57 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://farairwodzi.blogspot.co.za/2011_01_01_archive.html?m=1
18/10/2016, 8:59 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://www.veritaszim.net/node/1422
18/10/2016, 9:00 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://maravi.blogspot.co.za/2010/05/newzimbabwe-mawere-makamba.html?m=1
18/10/2016, 9:02 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://www.herald.co.zw/de-specification-of-mawere-was-reached-in-consultation/
18/10/2016, 9:03 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://zimdiaspora.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=38:travel-tips&layout=blog&Itemid=293&limitstart=5000
18/10/2016, 9:06 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://allafrica.com/stories/200406020577.html
18/10/2016, 9:08 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://www.thestandard.co.zw/2010/06/03/despecified-mawere-speaks-out-on-future/
18/10/2016, 9:12 AM – Dziva Mawere:
18/10/2016, 9:12 AM – Dziva Mawere:
18/10/2016, 9:13 AM – Dziva Mawere:
18/10/2016, 9:13 AM – Dziva Mawere:
18/10/2016, 9:17 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://nehandaradio.com/2010/11/22/jonathan-moyo-allergic-to-the-truth-mawere/
18/10/2016, 9:18 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://www.southerneye.co.zw/2013/10/24/mawere-wants-shabanie-mines-back/
18/10/2016, 9:19 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://interfinbank.blogspot.co.za/2011/01/importance-of-rule-of-law-eng-case-has.html?m=1
18/10/2016, 9:20 AM – Dziva Mawere: http://zimdiaspora.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4474:mawere-slams-chinamasa-in-parliamentary-committee&catid=38:travel-tips&Itemid=18
18/10/2016, 9:35 AM – James: Is it possible to sue the govt outside the zim justice system to recover your assets
18/10/2016, 9:42 AM – +263 77 735 0451: Ref The Sadc tribunal though later disbanded.
18/10/2016, 10:18 AM – Tapiwa Chitambo added +263 77 376 6805
18/10/2016, 10:21 AM – Wildfire 1873: Morning
18/10/2016, 10:21 AM – Wildfire 1873: Will be going on air pleaee help me understand Smoothnest
18/10/2016, 10:30 AM – Wildfire 1873: What would we be suing for
18/10/2016, 10:34 AM – Wildfire 1873: Am inspired by the discussions that go on in this group and being a presenter I find myself learning alot from the conversations that happen here.
18/10/2016, 10:36 AM – Shingai Ndoro: Please share your script.
Don’t just go on air!
18/10/2016, 10:38 AM – Wildfire 1873: https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://mg.co.za/article/2004-11-26-reserve-bank-gave-zanupf-800m&ved=0ahUKEwjhiKWykN_PAhVDAcAKHUFVDh8QFggZMAA&usg=AFQjCNGRYpCS0C7SUOhtipZoY1trCB3rqg&sig2=hItaHMuKegy69C4Aco3Dag
18/10/2016, 10:38 AM – Tapiwa Chitambo: Welcome Brian a young lawyer practicing in Zimbabwe
18/10/2016, 10:39 AM – Wildfire 1873: Having been a member of this group I find the facts of SMM closely connected with Smoothnest and Mr Maweres name appears yet he says they was no politics involved in SMM
18/10/2016, 10:39 AM – Wildfire 1873: https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://mg.co.za/article/2004-11-26-reserve-bank-gave-zanupf-800m&ved=0ahUKEwjhiKWykN_PAhVDAcAKHUFVDh8QFggZMAA&usg=AFQjCNGRYpCS0C7SUOhtipZoY1trCB3rqg&sig2=hItaHMuKegy69C4Aco3Dag
18/10/2016, 10:39 AM – TinasheMpasiri: Welcome Mr Brian
18/10/2016, 10:41 AM – TinasheMpasiri: I have been eager to understand the Smoothnest issue. It would be tremendous to learn and understand about it.
18/10/2016, 10:41 AM – Wildfire 1873: I think am capably enough to know what to take on air and why should I run everything by you before I go on air
18/10/2016, 10:42 AM – TinasheMpasiri: What is Smooth in the Nest
18/10/2016, 10:42 AM – TinasheMpasiri: Who was in the Nest
18/10/2016, 10:42 AM – Wildfire 1873: Tune to www.the1873fm.com and let get to know who was in the nest as you asked
18/10/2016, 10:43 AM – TinasheMpasiri: I want to
18/10/2016, 10:43 AM – TinasheMpasiri: Know
18/10/2016, 10:43 AM – Wildfire 1873: I want the public to know who was in the best
18/10/2016, 10:43 AM – Wildfire 1873: *nest
18/10/2016, 10:44 AM – Wildfire 1873: Anyone who knows something about Smoothnest add your voice please contribute
18/10/2016, 10:45 AM – Wildfire 1873: Corruption is a big matter that concerns us and this network and our radio are both intended to raise awareness and not to sensor these issues
18/10/2016, 10:45 AM – Wildfire 1873: Join us as we unpack Smoothnest at 11am CAT
18/10/2016, 10:46 AM – Wildfire 1873: Boiling Point: Corruption 101
18/10/2016, 10:46 AM – Wildfire 1873: From Smoothnest to Zimdef
18/10/2016, 10:47 AM – Wildfire 1873: The journey from 2004 to 2016
18/10/2016, 10:50 AM – TinasheMpasiri: 👍👍👍
18/10/2016, 10:50 AM – Tawanda Fosmm: Smoothfest was a briefcase company
18/10/2016, 10:50 AM – Wildfire 1873:
18/10/2016, 10:50 AM – Wildfire 1873: How brief was the case
18/10/2016, 10:51 AM – Wildfire 1873: I need to understand how a briefcase company got a billion from the government
18/10/2016, 10:52 AM – Wildfire 1873: Who was in the nest to receive the billion
18/10/2016, 10:53 AM – Tawanda Fosmm: [10/16/2016, 11:24] Mutumwa Mawere: Do you want to get the facts on Smoothnest so that you can organise your thought processes?
[10/16/2016, 11:25] tthawandean: Yes of course
[10/16/2016, 11:26] tthawandean: If also there is are any additional matters on the political column
[10/16/2016, 12:01] tthawandean: Ok so the report /article i had is ill informed factually
[10/16/2016, 12:06] tthawandean: I understand that there are 3 companies in SARE,and the acquisition wasnt targeting to buy the shares of a particular company..in that case the $1billion being requested for would not translate only to 1 company…and the implications made in the press can be far fetched
[10/16/2016, 12:08] tthawandean: Yes i read them,,you were not in the management of fbc to have blocked any transaction
[10/16/2016, 12:22] tthawandean: Frankly i see the shareholding of ARL in fbc being used as a point of reference…but operational wize zanu pf has a controlling state..either way they could have been privy to any information regarding this matter
[10/16/2016, 12:22] tthawandean: stake*
[10/16/2016, 12:26] tthawandean: In the affidavit you state that arl has 20% shareholding in fbc and zanu pf through its companies 23%…i didnt mean to state controlling stake
[10/16/2016, 12:27] tthawandean: But the point is they were privy to information and decisions
[10/16/2016, 12:28] tthawandean: 23_26
[10/16/2016, 12:28] Mutumwa Mawere: That was direct ARL and not its associates. The limit for any individual shareholder was 25%. Do you think shareholding is the main issue here?
[10/16/2016, 12:29] tthawandean: Absolutely not
[10/16/2016, 12:29] Mutumwa Mawere: The issue is about the legality of the transaction.
[10/16/2016, 12:30] Mutumwa Mawere: What was the transaction and where was the mischief
[10/16/2016, 12:30] tthawandean: So how can accusations be laid on one part if others are involved operational wize
[10/16/2016, 12:31] Mutumwa Mawere: What do you think the transaction was about
[10/16/2016, 12:34] tthawandean: Im still trying to make sense of the presantation given by Manikai in applying for the loan..whether it was a genuine attempt or not
[10/16/2016, 12:34] tthawandean: Im yet to do that
[10/16/2016, 12:34] Mutumwa Mawere: Ok. Do you have the links
[10/16/2016, 12:34] tthawandean: No
[10/16/2016, 12:35] tthawandean: If you ve them please
[10/16/2016, 16:44] Mutumwa Mawere: Did u read
[10/16/2016, 16:53] tthawandean: I just downloaded them now..on it
[10/16/2016, 16:59] tthawandean: Ok i,ve read the document
[10/16/2016, 17:01] tthawandean: This is a clear case of coruption sir…and its far reaching..
[10/16/2016, 17:02] Mutumwa Mawere: What is your take
[10/16/2016, 17:02] tthawandean: Now im seeing how this country fell apart
[10/16/2016, 17:05] tthawandean: Its a series of networks controlling and manipulating the national banker,,local banks throung an organised scheme of companies…needless to say your only involvement is not visible though
[10/16/2016, 17:06] tthawandean: And its being done in the name of zanu pf by certain individuals
[10/16/2016, 17:20] Mutumwa Mawere: Now you see what happened
[10/16/2016, 17:27] tthawandean: Yah i do..call for rectification
[10/16/2016, 17:29] tthawandean: Surely
[10/16/2016, 17:29] tthawandean: I also find it that doing business in that environment can be risky..if not trapping
[10/16/2016, 17:30] Mutumwa Mawere: Have you truly understood the transaction?
[10/16/2016, 17:31] tthawandean: I did…
[10/16/2016, 17:32] Mutumwa Mawere: Where was the corruption
[10/16/2016, 17:32] tthawandean: The money that was taken from the bank was diverted
[10/16/2016, 17:33] Mutumwa Mawere: Which bank?
[10/16/2016, 17:34] tthawandean: First bank
[10/16/2016, 17:36] Mutumwa Mawere: The facts are similar to Zimdef that the then Minister of Labour July Moyo instructed the Social Dimesion Fund to deposit Z $1billion into First Bank which funds were used as security to lend Z$ to Smoothnest.
[10/16/2016, 17:41] tthawandean: Are you saying the money originated from RBZ altogether..but FBC was just a vehicle
[10/16/2016, 17:41] Mutumwa Mawere: The Ministry of Labour not RBZ
[10/16/2016, 17:43] tthawandean: Ohh ok i see…i saw them as 2 seperate transactions at first
[10/16/2016, 17:47] Mutumwa Mawere: Smoothnest was a shelf company and had no Security. The seller of the shares was M&S Investments a company controlled by Mnangagwa. The buyer was Smoothnest. So Smoothnest relying on a government deposit obtained a loan whose proceeds were used to pay to M&S Investments. The proceeds were to used to finance Mnangagwa’s campaign to be VP.
[10/16/2016, 17:50] tthawandean: Ok for me that was off the records..cause in the appication to fbc nowhere was there mention to buy shares to specifiaclly M&S,but the whole 3 were listed as one company
[10/16/2016, 17:51] Mutumwa Mawere: If you read again you will see it.
[10/16/2016, 17:54] tthawandean: Ok so also the bank fbc could only disburse..in this case
[10/16/2016, 17:55] Mutumwa Mawere: Could only advance the funds on the back of the deposit
[10/16/2016, 17:56] tthawandean: so this explains the affidavit,i was wondering its source all along
18/10/2016, 10:53 AM – Wildfire 1873: Last week we touched on the issue of transparency international report about a billion that zim looses every year
18/10/2016, 10:53 AM – Wildfire 1873: Thanks this helps
18/10/2016, 10:55 AM – Wildfire 1873: No one spoke about Smoothnest and TIZ never report on smoothnest
18/10/2016, 10:56 AM – Tawanda Fosmm: It was a a well orchestrated move where they took money from the ministry of labor through RBZ,deposited it into FBC as meant for a loan to smoothfest,the briefcase co then applying for the same money as a loan from fbc,claiming they wanted to buy shares In SARES,which housed a zanu pf company
18/10/2016, 10:57 AM – Wildfire 1873: Are you sure of this and who was the minister was it Murerhwa
18/10/2016, 10:58 AM – TinasheMpasiri:
18/10/2016, 10:59 AM – Tawanda Fosmm: The minister of labor was July Moyo.it is he who gave the directive to have the money deposited there
18/10/2016, 11:02 AM – TinasheMpasiri: Is July Moyo a member of Team Lacoste